Bhagavad-gÄŤtÄ 9.34 Type:Bhagavad-gÄŤtÄDate:August 3Year:1976Place:New MÄyÄpur 0:00 / 39:49 [lecture takes place in the garden in the afternoon, under a tree] Pradyumna: Oáš namo bhagavate vÄsudevÄya. Oáš namo bhagavate vÄsudevÄya. Oáš namo bhagavate vÄsudevÄya. [devotees repeat] [leads devotees in chanting] man-manÄ bhava mad-bhakto mad-yÄjÄŤ mÄáš namaskuru mÄm evaiᚣyasi yuktvaivam ÄtmÄnaáš mat-parÄyaášaḼ [Bg. 9.34] [02:15] Translation: âEngage your mind always in thinking of Me, offer obeisances and worship Me. Being completely absorbed in Me, surely you will come to Me.â PrabhupÄda: So what is the difficulty? KášášŁáša is recommending these four things: man-manÄ bhava, âalways think of Me.â You, man-manÄ bhava mad-bhaktaḼ: âYou become My devotee.â Unless you become devotee, you cannot think of KášášŁáša. That is automatically. If you think of KášášŁáša always, that means you are devotee. Otherwise, why a person wastes his time thinking of KášášŁáša? He can think of business. He can think of so many other things. Only the devotee can think of KášášŁáša. So if you think of KášášŁáša, then automatically you become devotee. Is there any objection? BhagavÄn: No. PrabhupÄda: Who can think of KášášŁáša always? Not always even, think of KášášŁáša, unless one is devotee? And to think of KášášŁáša, what is the difficulty? Huh? Is there any difficulty to think of KášášŁáša? Thinking power we have got. We think so many⌠Our mind is never vacant; always think something. We think of something always, twenty-four hours. That is mindâs nature. So if you simply think of KášášŁáša, then your life becomes successful. Where is the difficulty? Hmm? And the result is mÄm evaiᚣyasi: by following these principles or thinking of KášášŁáša, which means to become a devotee⌠Man-manÄ bhava mad-bhakto mad-yÄjÄŤ [Bg. 18.65]. Anyone who is devotee, naturally heâll worship KášášŁáša. The temple is there. We worship. Then? Man-manÄ bhava, mad-yÄjÄŤ mÄáš namaskuru. And worshiping KášášŁáša means, if you cannot do anything, you simply go and offer your obeisances, thatâs all. It is open to everyone. There is no restriction that such and such men can come and offer obeisances. No. Anyone. MÄáš hi pÄrtha vyapÄĹritya ye âpi syuḼ pÄpa-yonayaḼ [Bg. 9.32]. Even born in low-grade family, it doesnât matter. So where is the difficulty? That we want to discuss. To become KášášŁáša conscious, is there any difficulty for any person anywhere, any part of the world? Let us discuss this point. Huh? [aside:] You sit down properly. I say you, yes. So, discuss this point. What is the difficulty? Why people are not KášášŁáša conscious? But the process is very simple. Man-manÄ bhava mad-bhakto mad-yÄjÄŤ [Bg. 18.65]. The result? [aside:] Donât divert your attention. MÄm evaiᚣyasi, what is the next line? BhagavÄn: MÄm evaiᚣyasi yuktvaivam. PrabhupÄda: Yuktvaiva. YuktvÄ means connected. If you think of KášášŁáša, if you worship Him, offer obeisance, that means you are already connected. Yuktvaiva. What is the yuktvaiva meaning? BhagavÄn: Absorbed, âbeing absorbed.â PrabhupÄda: Then? Read the whole line. BhagavÄn: MÄm evaiᚣyasi yuktvaivam ÄtmÄnaáš mat-parÄyaášaḼ. PrabhupÄda: ÄtmÄnam means KášášŁáša. Heâs the supreme ÄtmÄ. Just like we love ÄtmÄ, every one of us. We, if there is some danger, then immediately we try to protect ourself, protect this body from danger. Why? Why do you want to protect this body from danger? What is the reason. BhagavÄn: They identify the body as the self, and the self is part and parcel of KášášŁáša. PrabhupÄda: That is wrong conception. But actually, because I am living within this body, I want to give protection. This is the fact. Just like one protects his country because he lives there. Protects his house, protects his property because he has utilization. Similarly, because we have got utility for this body, we give protection. But when the living entity is no longer there within this body, there is no question of protection. It is thrown away. Even his father, mother or relative, they take the body and throw away. In a different way, the body is thrown away. It has no more importance. So then ultimately it comes that you love yourself. And you love yourself, but the self is the part and parcel of the Supreme Self. Therefore you love yourself because you love the Supreme Self. So therefore, ÄtmÄnaášâŚ What is that? Devotee: Mat-parÄyaášaḼ PrabhupÄda: Mat-parÄyaášaḼ [Bg. 9.34]. Actually, everyone has got the loving propensity, because he loves KášášŁáša. That is natural. So KášášŁáša says that simply by following this process, man-manÄ bhava mad-bhakto mad-yÄjÄŤ, mÄm evaiᚣyasi, you are trying to find out the supreme loveable object. So mÄm evaiᚣyasi, come and let us live, loving one another. This is the goal of life. Every one of us, we love KášášŁáša, but we are missing Him. Therefore we are placing our loving propensity wronglyâhere, there, here, there, here, thereâand we are becoming frustrated. KášášŁáša says that âIf you simply follow this process, man-manÄ bhava mad-bhaktaḼ, you come to Me, come to your original lover.â So where is the difficulty? To attain the highest perfection of life, where is the difficulty? Anyone can say that âHere is the difficultyâ? JayÄntakášd: You explain in BhÄgavatam, ĹrÄŤla PrabhupÄda, bhogaiĹvarya-prasaktÄnÄáš tayÄpaḼrta-cetasÄm [Bg. 2.44]: âTo those who are too attached to material enjoyment and material opulence the devotional service cannot take place.â This can be one difficulty. PrabhupÄda: Because we want material happiness, therefore there is difficulty. So material happiness, you have got experience, it cannot give us satisfaction. The big, big countries, America, in Europe, and so many, they have advanced in material happiness, but actually they are not happy. Material happiness cannot give us happiness. Happiness, when we actually come to KášášŁáša and love Him⌠Happiness means also love. Either you love your family or your country or your society or your wife, your children, by loving there is happiness. But this loving process is not giving us happiness. We are becoming frustrated. Therefore the real lovable object being KášášŁáša, if we make progress to that point, then we shall be happy. This is the point. MÄm evaiᚣyasi asaášĹayaḼ [Bg. 18.68]. So if this is concluded, then where is difficulty to execute KášášŁáša consciousness? That is my point. Now it is concluded that if we come to KášášŁáša and love Him, then that is the highest perfection of our life. Now, to attain that highest perfection of life, where is the difficulty? That is the point I am asking. BhagavÄn: Only if one is envious of KášášŁáša. PrabhupÄda: Huh? Then there is no question of love. That is another thing. But if you actually want to love KášášŁáša, where is the difficulty? Devotees: There is no difficulty. PrabhupÄda: That is my point. [laughter] If you donât want to love somebody, then there is no question of process. But if you know by loving such and such person youâll be happy, then there is process, and the process is very easy, and open to everyone. That is my point. Now discuss on this point. ViĹvambhara: Sometimes devotees, they want to love KášášŁáša, but they fall down. They canât seem to⌠PrabhupÄda: No, no. They want to love KášášŁáša, but they divert their love to other things. That is the difficulty. If you want to love KášášŁáša, then follow thisâman-manÄ bhava mad-bhakto mad-yÄjÄŤ mÄáš namaskuru. If you love KášášŁáša, then why you are diverting your attention? You are worshiping Deity, you are thinking of loving some woman. Thatâs all. Huh? Why you are diverting? If you love KášášŁáša, you are engaged in KášášŁášaâs service, just decorate nicely. Why you are diverting your attention? That means Iâm not yet convinced that by loving KášášŁáša Iâll be perfect. That is the difficulty. Devotee: In the Bhagavad-gÄŤtÄ KášášŁáša says, ye yathÄ mÄáš prapadyante tÄášs tathaiva bhajÄmy aham [Bg. 4.11]: âAs they surrenderâŚâ PrabhupÄda: Everything is said there. We are discussing one point, that one isâŚ, if we are convinced, that requires education. Love, we are being frustrated every point. Now, when the perfectional point we shall come, that is by loving the original objective. There are so many examples. Just like a child, he is not happy in another womanâs lap, cries. But as soon as he comes to the lap of his own mother, heâs immediately happy. So we are trying to be happy so many ways, but we are not becoming happy. When we come to the real point of loving KášášŁáša⌠Love is there. I want to love somebody, everyone, but that is not being properly utilized. Therefore we are unhappy. So when you come to the stage of loving KášášŁáša, then youâll become happy. This is the point. That is being instructed by our KášášŁáša consciousness movement. Now, to love KášášŁáša, KášášŁáša never says that âIn order to love Me, you have to go to the factory or to work somewhere fifty miles away from your home.â He does not say all this. Simply, man-manÄ bhava mad-bhakto mad-yÄjÄŤ. The question may be raised that if I want to love KášášŁáša, then how other things will go on? This question may be raised. KášášŁáša never says that âYou have to go to the factory, earn money, and then you can love me.â He never makes this condition. Is there any condition? [laughter] Now practical persons will say, âIf I think of KášášŁáša always, then wherefrom money will come?â This question may be raised. How youâll answer it? BhagavÄn: KášášŁáša says, yoga-kᚣemaáš vahÄmy aham [Bg. 9.22]. PrabhupÄda: Ah, find out this verse. BhagavÄn: ananyÄĹ cintayanto mÄáš ye janÄḼ paryupÄsate teᚣÄáš nityÄbhiyuktÄnÄáš yoga-kᚣemaáš vahÄmy aham [Bg. 9.22] âBut those who worship Me with devotion, meditating on My transcendental formâto them I carry what they lack and preserve what they have.â PrabhupÄda: The same thing. This meditation is man-manÄ bhava mad-bhaktaḼ, âAlways think of KášášŁáša.â So those who are engaged in this way, always thinking of KášášŁáša, worshiping KášášŁáša, for such persons, KášášŁáša says, yoga-kᚣemaáš vahÄmy aham: âI personally carry all the necessities of life. I personally carry.â My point is that here in this New MÄyÄpur, if you simply carry on this man-manÄ bhava mad-bhaktaḼ, then all your necessities will come automatically, donât bother. [laughter] That is my point. Yes. Youâll get sufficient food, sufficient milk, sufficient fruits, flowers, all necessities. Simply you act on behalf of KášášŁáša and think of KášášŁáša, and donât bother about the necessities of life; it will be automatically supplied. Donât be disturbed from that point of view. Simply engage yourself in this business of man-manÄ bhava mad-bhakto mad-yÄjÄŤ mÄáš namaskuru [Bg. 18.65]. That is my point. YogeĹvara: ĹrÄŤla PrabhupÄda? How are we to determine how much of our endeavor should be for our own personal progress? PrabhupÄda: There is no personal endeavor. There is no personal endeavor. Just like these animals, they have no personal endeavor. They are depending on you. If you cut his throat, you can cut. And if you give him protection, you can give him. But theyâŚ, the animal has no personal endeavor. That is full surrender. That is our position. Remain fully surrendered to KášášŁáša, and Heâll give you protection. That you are thinking, how the animal will live, how these children will live. It is not the childrenâs business, not the animalâs business. He is fully surrendered, thatâs all. Man-manÄ bhava mad-bhaktaḼ. Thatâs all. Other things will be done. KášášŁáša says, yoga-kᚣemaáš vahÄmy aham [Bg. 9.22]. âI shall do that.â Why your personal endeavor? YogeĹvara: Sometimes if we are faced with a service we think is beyond our means. PrabhupÄda: Huh? Where is that? Man-manÄ bhava mad-bhaktaḼ is beyond your means? [laughter] That we have already discussed. It is not beyond your means. If you think of KášášŁáša, who can check it? Why do you say beyond your means? BhagavÄn: Ahaituky apratihatÄ [SB 1.2.6]. It cannot be checked. PrabhupÄda: It cannot be checked. Ahaituky apratihatÄ. There is no question of checking. Devotee: If somehow, ĹrÄŤla PrabhupÄda, someone falls down, does that mean that he did not want to love KášášŁáša? PrabhupÄda: Yes. Devotee: If someone is doing some service which involves business, is he thinking of KášášŁáša when heâs thinking of that service? PrabhupÄda: Yes, if heâs doing for KášášŁáša, he must be thinking of KášášŁáša. Just like somebody works in business or factory for the wife and children, he always thinks of them. Although heâs working in the factory or business, heâs thinking of the welfare of his wife, children, family. Similarly, if you actually work for KášášŁáša, youâll think of KášášŁáša. BhĹŤgarbha: How can a person with all material desires develop desire to love KášášŁáša? PrabhupÄda: Material means that you love more KášášŁáša, automatically material desires will be finished. Because you do not love KášášŁáša cent percent, therefore material desires. The balance is filled up by material desires. Just like in a glass there is some ink, and if you fill up with water, the full glass, the ink will vanish; there will be no more ink. It will be allâŚ, all white. This is the way. BhaktiḼ pareĹÄnubhavo viraktir anyatra syÄt [SB 11.2.42]. To love KášášŁáša means you have no more material desire. The percentage you are lacking KášášŁáša love, the percentage material desires are there. Ye yathÄ mÄáš prapadyante [Bg. 4.11]. If you love KášášŁáša ten percent, then ninety percent material desires. And if you love KášášŁáša ninety percent, ten percent material desires. And if you love KášášŁáša cent percent, there is no material desire. This is the way. So if you love KášášŁáša twenty-four hours, cent percent, simply thinking of KášášŁáša and offering obeisances, worshiping, then where is the possibility of material desires? There is no possibility. So the process is very simple: man-manÄ bhava mad-bhaktaḼ. And all other things, they will come automatically. Actually, KášášŁáša is supplying everything. KášášŁáša is supplying this grass. The animal will eat, and the animal will supply you milk. Youâll drink the milk. So KášášŁáša is supplying. Everything is being supplied by KášášŁáša, actually, but because we do not know KášášŁáša and do not love KášášŁáša, cannot understand. But supply is being made by KášášŁáša, yoga-kᚣemaáš vahÄmy aham [Bg. 9.22], even for the nondevotees. So what to speak of the devotee? It automatically comes. This is the way. So the point is there is no difficulty to become KášášŁáša conscious, and the result is so big that mÄm evaiᚣyasi asaášĹayaḼ [Bg. 18.68]. Yad gatvÄ na nivartante tad dhÄma paramaáš mama [Bg. 15.6]. So for such great benefit of life, if you simply think of KášášŁáša and become His devotee, why shall I lose this opportunity? What is that intelligence? Therefore unless one is a rascal, miscreant, lowest of the mankind, he cannot give up KášášŁáša consciousness. It is not possible. Na mÄáš duᚣkáštino mĹŤá¸hÄḼ prapadyante narÄdhamÄḼ [Bg. 7.15]. Unless he is rascal number one, lowest of the mankind, full of sinful activities, he cannot avoid KášášŁáša consciousness. Thatâs all. This is the position. BhagavÄn: You have given the analogy that when a person turns his back to the sun he creates his shadow. And as he turns towards the sun the shadow disappears. PrabhupÄda: Yes, that is the motto of our⌠KášášŁášaâsĹŤrya-sama [Cc. Madhya 22.31]. âGodhead is light, mÄyÄ is nescience.â Devotee: ĹrÄŤla PrabhupÄda? Does someone⌠Does KášášŁáša punish people who do not serve Him purely? Or do the people punish themselves when they do not serve Him purely? PrabhupÄda: By natureâs⌠Nature is acting by KášášŁášaâs indication. So nature will punish you. As soon as you violate natureâs law youâll be punished, automatically. Suppose if you, you are not hungry, you have no appetite, but if you by force if you eat, then youâll increase the disease, because you have violated. There is no appetite, still you are eating. So you must suffer. If you have infected some disease, so you must suffer from that disease. That natureâs law is working. KášášŁáša hasnât got to take any direct action. Nature, mÄyÄ, is there. As soon as you violate the laws of KášášŁáša youâll be punished, automatically. You cannot avoid it. DaivÄŤ hy eášŁÄ guášamayÄŤ mama mÄyÄ duratyayÄ [Bg. 7.14]. Cannot avoid. Therefore those who are trying to overcome the laws of nature, that is the so-called modern scientistsâ endeavor. That is foolishness, rascaldom. They cannot do it. It is not possible. Just like we are here, we are given this planet to live, and there is this moon planet, we can see. And these rascals try to go there so many ways. They are refused: âNo, you cannot go.â Live there, go. It is practical. We see the moon planet is there, we have got machine, we can go, but you cannot go. This is laws of nature. [laughter] This is laws of nature. This is practically proof. But they are so rascal, fool, they are going to another planet. They do not think, âWith the one planet we have already failed.â [laughter] They are called punaḼ punaĹ carvita-carvaášÄnÄm [SB 7.5.30]âchewing the chewed. They are being baffled every step, and still they are trying to overcome the laws of nature. That is their foolishness. NarÄdhama. MÄyayÄpahášta-jĂąÄna. MÄyÄ is so strong upon them that their so-called scientific knowledge is useless. In 1958, when I wrote that book Easy Journey to Other Planets, I write in that book, those who have read it, that this moon planet excusion is simply childish and waste of time. And actually it has proved. So I was not a scientist, neither I am a scientist. How did I say? I said on the strength of the version in the Vedic literature that it is not possible. You cannot⌠We are conditioned. We are conditioned to remain in a certain condition, certain atmosphere. We cannot surpass that. Just like we are animals of the land. We cannot go to the water. And the aquatics, fishes, they are animals of the water; they cannot live on the land. Why these rascals are trying to overcome the laws of nature? How foolish rascals they are, just imagine. Any child can understand, but these rascals cannot understand. Their challenge is that âWe are trying to overcome the laws.â Is it not? That is their challenge. Therefore they are rascals. NarÄdhama, mÄyayÄpahášta-jĂąÄna. They are attempting in something which they cannot perform; therefore they are rascals. MĹŤá¸ha. So better, to become more and more mĹŤá¸ha, better to take to KášášŁáša consciousness. Man-manÄ bhava mad-bhakto mad-yÄjÄŤ mÄm. That will make your live successful. Why should you imitate these rascals? Hmm? What is your saying? What do you think? We say they are rascals. What do you think? YogeĹvara: They are all rascals. PrabhupÄda: Thatâs right. [laughter] Anyone protest against this? [laughter] Heâll be another rascal. Donât try to overcome the laws of nature. That is not possible. You have been given this land, this planet. Live here. Grow your food, chant Hare KášášŁáša and live peacefully. Why should we go to the moon planet? [laughter] But there is process. If you want to go, there is process. Not this, that âBy force I can go there by machine.â That is not possible. That is not possible. That is foolishness. Just like I am Indian. If I want to come to France, I must take visa, I must have the passport and so on, so on. By force I want to enterâno. So we have got experience that by force we cannot do anything. You must be competent to go anywhere, provided you qualify yourself. YÄnti deva-vratÄ devÄn pitášn yÄnti pitáš-vratÄḼ [Bg. 9.25]. You can go, but not in that way, that because you have got a tiny machine you can go. That is not possible. That is useless. It is not possible. Devotee: If someone forces his mind, ĹrÄŤla PrabhupÄda, to think of KášášŁáša⌠PrabhupÄda: That is foolishness. One who is controlled by his mind, that is more foolishness. Devotee: But if he forces his mind⌠PrabhupÄda: Thatâs⌠Force or not force, one who is controlled by the mind, heâs a rascal. Heâs a rascal. ManorathenÄsati dhÄvato bahiḼ. HarÄv abhaktasya kuto mahad-guášÄ manorathenÄsati [SB 5.18.12]. They are driven by the chariot of mind. Useless. No intelligence. No benefit. But all these rascal scientists, philosophers, they are going on the chariot of the mind: âI think,â âIn my opinion.â This is their⌠Manorathena, on the mental platform. So theyâre all foolish. They have no value. Mental concoction. Useless. YogeĹvara: That means that our attraction for KášášŁáša must be spontaneous? PrabhupÄda: It is all spontaneous. You want to love somebody, but the love is misplaced; therefore you are baffled. Replace it to KášášŁáša, youâll be happy. Love is thereâthat is not a new thingâbut you are misplacing the love. That information we are giving, that donât misplace your love. Place your love to KášášŁáša, youâll be happy. ÄdiĹekhara: So we can bring the mind under the control of KášášŁáša? PrabhupÄda: Yes. One who is under the control of KášášŁáša, heâs no more under control of the mind. Sa vai manaḼ kášášŁáša-padÄravindayoḼ [SB 9.4.18]. Mind is being controlled. So mind cannot dictate. Those who are not under control of KášášŁáša, the mind dictates to him. Heâs under the control of the mind, or senses, thatâs all. So point is that be fixed up in KášášŁáša consciousness. Donât disturb yourself by the material environment, or enchantment. Be fixed up, chant Hare KášášŁáša, always fixed up, your mind at the lotus feet of KášášŁáša. So far the necessities of life concerned, that will come automatically. Youâll never be in trouble. Go on with this business. Thank you very much. Devotees: Jaya PrabhupÄda! [end]